DB: This
is a great interview with Professor Fekete because in it he abandons some
of the vocabulary that tends to confuse people who don't have a sufficiently
high intellect to understand him, which means almost everybody.
BM: Agree, speaking as one of those who doesn’t have
sufficiently high intellect. Fekete also
did a good job of remaining on good behavior.
AF: World trade is facing an avalanche-like transformation
flattening out monetary economy into barter economy.
BM: If true, the majority of the population in developed
economies is done for.
AF: Gold is a monetary metal due to the fact that its
marginal utility declines at a rate lower than that of any commodity.
BM: But, admittedly, it does decline.
AF: For this reason gold does not obey the Law of Supply and
Demand.
BM: Fortunately, this was stated simply enough for me to
understand. It is statements like these
that cause me to look askance at Dr. Fekete.
Gold has been in the market for thousands of years – has no
economist before ever noted that the law of supply and demand is not applicable
to this commodity?
All commodities, including money – the most marketable
commodity – are subject to supply and demand; if not, how could money be money? Fekete even suggests that gold has a
declining marginal utility. It does not
have a constant marginal utility. It is subject to supply and demand.
AF: My own position
is that manipulation in the gold and silver markets, if that's what's been
occurring, is far less important than it is made out to be by market observers.
BM: Agree. It is
difficult to even understand what market manipulation means when every
financial market is subject to the non-market backstop of central banking and
state-regulation. All markets are
manipulated – there is nothing terribly special about the gold market
manipulation.
AF: I don't have much respect for Hayek's position that
choosing the monetary standard should be "left to the free market".
The market has already spoken.
BM: Then there is little to fear. The only way to ensure a sound financial
system is to allow the market to speak – any other avenue is central planning,
and this cannot stand because it suggests no foundation of understanding by
market participants.
AF: The value of gold, like the length of the yard, is not
subject to individual preferences or to market forces.
BM: On this, I will simply disagree. Suffice it to say, if this was true, everyone
would clamor to own gold, regardless of price (and yes, I am differentiating “price”
from “value”).
AF: Instead of saying that there is too much or too little
gold, it would be more accurate to say that the rate of interest is too high or
too low.
BM: I appreciate the simplicity by which this way of looking
at it is stated. I suspect there may be
some differentiation (are long-term or short-term interest rates applicable?),
but as far as the statement goes, it is outstanding in its simplicity.
AF: We may recognize ZIRP (Zero Interest Rate Policy) of
Bernanke as an imitation of the scheme of Gesell.
BM: This is quite correct, and Bernanke has implemented
greenbacker policy – the state is issuing the money to fund the state’s
spending, at virtually zero cost. For
this reason, Brown turned from being a critic of Bernanke to a fan.
Further, Fekete’s criticism of Gesell’s Freigeld theory is
sound.
AF [regarding “Real Bills”]: This is not inflationary
because the ephemeral cash arises together with the rise of the new merhandise
in production, and it expires simultaneously with the removal of the
merchandise from the market and with its disappearance in consumption.
BM: It is most certainly inflationary to the money supply,
therefore it is distortive; it may or may not be inflationary to prices.
AF [regarding the state as necessary toward the market for “Real
Bills”]: Absolutely not.
BM: Thank you! I
agree, the state is not necessary, and it is reasonable to expect that such a
market would come forth naturally, through the actions of market participants.
AF [regarding state-mandated accounting standards]: If the
government can make them, it can also scrap them, it can ignore them overtly or
covertly.
BM: Thank you, again!
AF [regarding why the Rothbardian Austrians are dismissive
of the “Real Bills Doctrine”] The Real Bills Doctrine is a thorn in the flesh
of the Quantity Theory of Money to which the Rothbardians are uncritically
committed.
BM: This comment confused me more than anything in the interview. The Rothbardians are uncritically committed
to the subjective theory of value. How
then can they also be uncritically committed to the Quantity Theory of Money? Somewhere, there is confusion.
In any case, I believe the Rothbardian criticism is due to
the fractional reserve nature of real bills.
That real bills are fractional reserve is without a doubt – Fekete even
says so, in his reply to the Rothbardian criticism of fractional reserve
banking, when he writes:
“Fractional reserve banking is fraud, in whatever shape and
form it may come – they say. However, there is such a thing called
self-liquidating credit that Rothbardians refuse to recognize. It is
represented by real bills covering goods in most urgent demand and moving to
the ultimate consumer with all deliberate speed.”
AF: The demise of the system of irredeemable currency is a
foregone conclusion. Not only is it illogical; it is also immoral. A free
society cannot be built on a coercive basis. Moreover, the regime of
irredeemable currency is incompatible with the ideal of limited government.
BM: The truest words spoken in this interview. A fabulous statement.