…and your enemies closer.
Referring back to my post, wondering why the billionaire, oligarch class appears to be on the side of exposing the corruption in the federal government:
But why? That’s the question I keep asking myself. Why this effort? Why now? Why is it happening? Why, so relatively speaking, quietly?
But why are they doing it? They have never done so in my life. And I have lived a pretty long life.
My conclusion: without the United States as their foundation and defender, and offering a projection of power and control, their wealth and control are lost. And, unless the United States changes its ways from ruling the world to watching out more for the interests of the country, the United States will be lost.
I have started seeing and reading much more along these lines – these people are not our friends, that kind of thing. Yes, they may be sincere about reducing government waste and spending, but they are doing it only to have the vehicle (the US government) to exercise ever-greater control over us.
In fact, this answer was given back in early November:
Well, just as I figured:
For more than a month, Elon Musk has been eyeing a position leading a task force under a hypothetical Trump administration. Now, it appears his role has been downgraded to “writing software” to help slash the federal budget, according to Former President Donald Trump’s transition team co-chair.
“He’s going to be adjacent to [the government]. I think adjacent to it and writing software for the government and then giving the software to the government and helping the government,” Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick told CNN Wednesday evening. “It’s going to be amazing.”
This would be the worst possible outcome….
So, why am I starting here, repeating that which I have covered before? I remember the positive vibe I felt, seeing the many out-of-the-norm nominees Trump named for various cabinet and department positions: Gabbard, Patel, Noem, RFK, jr. even Hegseth, etc.
Now, a few of these were, and remain, neocons. But Gabbard did not talk or act that way at all. And RFK, jr., even though he clearly had a strong leaning in this regard, was named to a cabinet post that seemed irrelevant to his neocon-ish sentiments.
Well, Gabbard has completely flipped (have you seen her defend the bombings in Yemen, and her nonsensical comments about Signal-gate?), and RFK, jr., it seems, posts primarily about how antisemitism is a health crisis. Meanwhile, Patel and others are rounding up individuals for speech, carting them off to prison, with who knows what fate, and when.
Then there is this:
This is what’s happened to American values. The United States is supporting an apartheid state that’s engaged in genocide. Do you need to know any more?
- John Mearsheimer, on Judge Napolitano’s podcast
Conclusion
MAGA is going to be torn apart, and torn apart from within. These issues divide very neatly the MAGA base: the Christian Zionists are, no doubt, a strong supporter of MAGA and many of these neocon actions – probably the most significant bloc of MAGA support.
Yes, they are also the most important bloc for fighting against the culture-destroying actions of the left. So, there is that.
But there are other supporters of MAGA, who look and say: we didn’t vote for bombing Yemen, we didn’t vote for a war with Iran, we didn’t vote for continued support for Ukraine (yes, Trump owns this war now), we didn’t vote for deporting students for speech, we didn’t vote for turning weaponized government against some other group. We voted to end all of this.
These two factions cannot co-exist. The “enemies” of the neocons have been brought closer; some of the strongest public advocates for the second position – call it the Ron Paul large subset of MAGA supporters – have been effectively neutered by being brought into the inner circle.
I hope I am wrong (is Trump playing 8-D chess…will we fall for that notion a second time?), but it seems this is now the trajectory.
trump has threatened Brics to let fiat$ prevail, o/w.. Just the deep state, trump has no agency, voters are not just naive but desperate to cling to notions
ReplyDeleteIn the words of Ed McMahon, "You are correct, Sir!"
ReplyDeleteBefore the inauguration, MAGA people were routinely tweeting Ron Paul memes and other libertarian type messages about ending the fed, ending the wars, and improving the moral lot of the country (ending woke and other things). But now all that has gone away and it seems like the Neocons took complete control of the situation. The Executive Orders can have some good effects but some will be disallowed and other won't have an effect without Congressional action. We saw the Republican Congress vote for Biden's budget basically with the CR.
ReplyDeleteDemocrats and Neocons have all the money it seems and know how to pull all the relational strings they have behind closed doors.
MAGA right now is made of Neocons, Boomercons, Christian Nationalists, Paleoconservatives, National Socialists, Monarchists, Libertarians, and some dissident Left wingers. Most of these constituents aren't very interested in ending wars or reducing government, or it isn't a core principle.
https://thecrosssectionrmb.blogspot.com/
RMB, your list of the MAGA base brings clarity: in a revolution, everyone agrees on what they are against, but it doesn't mean they agree on what they are for.
DeleteRMB,
Delete"it seems like the Neocons took complete control of the situation." Yup, SNAFU.
But why do Neocons (especially this new generation of them: more budget conscious, more culturally conservative, anti-Woke, but still totally obsequious to Israel) have an iron grip on the American Right?
I think it's a triple alliance:
1. MIC. The American defense contractors have an immense interest in squashing peace sentiments in the GOP. It's bad for business.
2. Israel/AIPAC. Israel has an immense interest in keep America on a war-footing in the Middle East, especially since it cannot find a way to get along with its neighbors in the absence of American coercion.
3. Christian Zionism/Dispensationalism. The belief that the secular state in the Middle East is somehow the continuation of the Biblical House of Israel causes many Americans (especially Southern Christians) to erroneously believe that opposing the Israeli state will actually bring curses from God. They'd rather support mass murder of women and children than oppose (or even criticize, or increasingly, even allow others to criticize) the supposed chosen people of God.
When I talked with you last about this issue, years ago it seems, I think I remember that you were a Dispensationalist. Is that still the case? Have your views changed at all? Can a Dispensationalist oppose the actions of the Israeli state? I am genuinely interested in your opinions on this issue, because I respect your views a lot.
Bionic, And those likely to gain control always say, "hey let's stop with the infighting guys. Let's focus on our enemy the left" Meanwhile, they act to purge the right of the various components they deem a threat.
DeleteRecall the ascendant GOP establishment calling it's right-wing opponents the "Woke Right", even while they try to pass speech laws to criminalize discussion of Israel's real and heinous crimes, even while they deflect any criticism of Israel as "ANTISEMITISM!!!" Even the Catholics at the Daily Wire have this knee-jerk reaction.
Recall Jordan Peterson calling Candace Owens a "true Pharasaical pretender" willing to use "God's name in vain" to "subvert Christianity," all because she dared to question Israel's actions in the Mid-East. That's rich coming from a guy employed by Jews who uses Christianity to become wealthy without worshipping or accepting Jesus Christ as his God. Candace may be a bit provocative, but at least she is actually a Christian.
ATL, in that triple alliance, it is the Christian zionists that are the key to holding it all together, it seems to me. Even the MIC...the same group also does all the flag waving and military service worship in church on the Sundays of every major holiday.
DeleteYes, Jordan Peterson. It is difficult to believe one who can see so clearly so many wrongs in society somehow can't see the biggest wrong of all - genocide.
Exactly, the Christian Zionists are the indispensable base of democratic support for the whole Neocon project. Without them, they don't win another election.
DeleteAs to Peterson, it is especially amazing, because we all know how much time he spent studying, speaking about, and condemning the genocidal totalitarian regimes of the 20th century. Does he see no parallels? If the Nazis sent leaflets into the Jewish ghettos before they rounded them up, would they be just as morally spotless as the Israelis in JP's eyes?
"Gabbard has completely flipped"
ReplyDeleteI think if you go back and check her record, she has always been a hawk when it comes to killing people the intelligence community deems terrorists. She was only outspoken against policies where we were supporting terrorists to topple regimes, like in Syria and Libya. So her not having any scruples about bombing the Houthis checks out. They're backed by Iran!!!!!!! (sarc)
"These issues divide very neatly the MAGA base"
This is why Dispensationalism is such a necessary heresy to dismantle. It is destroying the American Right and allowing the neocon warhawks a second lease on life after it seemed many of them had fled to the Democratic Party or had outed themselves as anti-Trumpers. These new Neocons, like Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Hegseth, etc, are more culturally conservative than the older sort, and that may seem like an improvement, but in being better camouflaged wolves in sheep's clothing, they are even more despicable in my mind.
"The United States is supporting an apartheid state that’s engaged in genocide"
I'm actually fine supporting an apartheid state. I'd be totally fine with Israel being an open and avowed apartheid state in favor of the Jews. Think how much better South Africa and Rhodesia would be today if they had remained apartheid states controlled by whites.
It's the genocide part that gets me. You can't be in favor of killing women, children, and old folks by the thousands, burying them in rumble with airstrikes, running them over with tanks, shooting them in the head with precision rifles, etc, making an entire homeland nearly unlivable in the process, and still call yourself a conservative Christian.
ATL, can you separate dispensationalism from the end-times-zionist-1948 project, or are they necessarily intertwined? I have heard supporters of the former claim they aren't necessary tied together, but it seems clear one is connected to the other in the minds of most adherents.
DeleteAs to apartheid state and genocide...it strikes me that the policies necessary to maintain an apartheid state eventually lead to some sort of "cleansing." In other words, once two completely incompatible cultures lay claim to the same territory, eventually one has to remove all "enemies."
But maybe not.
Bionic,
DeleteGiven what's happened to both Rhodesia and South Africa, maybe you are right, because neither one conducted any purges of blacks (in both cases black populations surged), and they have both been taken over by them. Especially in Rhodesia's case, they had a plan to integrate blacks into their political structure over time (Ian Smith was an interesting guy), but it was not fast enough, not for the militant black communists funded by the Soviets or for the cowardly Western powers in the grips of early Wokism that abandoned them.
Of course, you know that I think the solution is to dismantle the modern state and have independent political communities that are voluntarily organized and funded so that no community (whether based on heritage, culture, religion, commerce, or whatever) feels oppressed by an authority structure they do not want.
Can Dispensationalism be untied from the Zionist project in the Mid East? I think it would be very difficult, but it might be possible. One could mistakenly believe that the Jews are still God's chosen people (Israel) and correctly think that the Israeli state was a misguided attempt by Man to establish what God Himself will establish in His time.
As for me, I believe (as all Christians did until the late 1800s) that Christians are the continuation of Israel. We were grafted in, and unbelieving Jews were cut off, and there is only one covenant between God and man. We are the heirs of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We worship the prophesied Messiah descended from the line of Judah. Nothing is more clearly stated than this in the Bible. Jesus may forgive people who are invincibly ignorant but are otherwise good and God-seeking, but this puts Jews in the same boat as every other non-Christian. Romans 11 states they are especially loved by God for the sake of their fathers (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, etc.), but what this means exactly is not clear. I take it to mean that God is especially forgiving with them, and that they are primed to be grafted back into the Tree.
"We are the heirs of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. We worship the prophesied Messiah descended from the line of Judah. Nothing is more clearly stated than this in the Bible."
DeleteJust one example of many:
Galatians 3: 16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.
The exact parallel between Exodus 19:5-6 and 1 Peter 2:9-10 (holy nation, priestly kingdom) should alone be enough to make a rock solid case that the Church is the continuation of Israel.
ReplyDeleteBut there is also:
Romans 4:13 (always election by faith)
Romans 10:12-13 (no distinction Jew and Greek)
Romans 11:16-28 (bad Jews cut off, good gentiles grafted in)
Ephesians 2:11-22 (gentiles no longer strangers to God)
Galatians 3:26-29 (by Christ we are the seed of Abraham)
Galatians 4:28 (children of promise)
Hebrews 8:6-13 (the new makes the former old and near its end)
John 10:16 (one fold, one shepherd)
John 15:5 (Jesus is the vine)
Matthew 15:24 (Jesus only sent for lost sheep of Israel)
Matthew 21:33-45 (parable of the wicked tenants, i.e. bad Jews)
Hosea 10:1 (Israel is a vine)
Jeremiah 6:9 (gather remains of Israel in a vine)
Ezekiel 37:21-26 (God's new covenant for children of Israel)
Sorry for the theological detour, but I think it is so important to get this right.