Thursday, October 24, 2024

Christians and Politics

 

Roger Mitchell, a regular and valued commenter at both of my blogs, has written a blog post, Should Christians be Involved in Politics?  It is a thought-provoking read, as is much of what he writes.  His answer is “no.”  I offer here his conclusion:

What, then, shall be done? How, then, shall we live? Well, there is nothing to do except to change myself into and in conformance with His likeness, to become holy as He is holy, to accept that there is no other name except His by which I am saved. This alone brings freedom. It is the only path to life. Nothing else will work. Everything else will fail.

You can rationalize all you want. You can make all the excuses you want. You can delude yourselves until the chickens come home to roost. In the end, you are only deceiving yourself.

I offered a comment, as follows:

Roger, I offer a story, taken from an excellent novel on the Spanish Civil War. As you know, fascists vs. communists – although even within each label there were other groups, etc.

Barcelona was more favorable to the communist side. Being a Catholic in this region was almost certain to bring persecution, if not death. Now, I could take a shortcut here – bypassing the more sobering point to the story…well, I will offer the shortcut, then get to the more sobering point.

A Catholic in Barcelona would much prefer the fascists led by Franco. It doesn’t mean they thought godly everything that Franco touched. It just meant relative safety for them and their families.

The more sobering story: before the war broke out, one of the sons of this Catholic family donated blood to a man, saving the man’s life. Turns out this man was a fanatical communist.

He would go on to protect the family during the fighting – with firearms and whatever else – from his fellow communists. He said, to the mother: “not even God can get through me to you.” She would smile, understanding his point even though it was a very poor way to phrase it.

So, I am not sure what I am saying – and, for sure you know how I feel about the lot of them (all the likely winners are supporters of genocide; it doesn’t get more evil than this). Maybe instead of considering it as the lesser of two evils, we consider all as fallen, but some less fallen than others.

Even with this said, I still don’t know how I feel about any of it. The way politics is practiced in a relativist, atheist society, is ugly – even in its least-fallen form.

I have written one post on the novel from which I based my comment, and I offer a couple of excerpts from my post as they are relevant to the point I am offering for consideration:

Gironella [the author] paints a picture of the chaos, turmoil, and terror when one is faced with a situation from which there is no escape – when no avenue offers safety, when no side can be chosen because all sides are violent and repressive, and choosing the wrong (losing) side is just as likely as choosing the right (winning) side; and the “right” and “wrong” sides can change claim to the seat of power, at times even day-to-day.

Throughout the novel, I am struck by the paralyzing nature of the situation – what choices can one make when all choices are bad?  Gironella paints this picture with great nuance and clarity – the lives of everyday people in a boat floating off as it will – with no one able to control it. 

We are not yet at the point of civil war.  But in every way, it seems inevitable that we are headed in this direction.  At that point, will we, as Christians be satisfied if we stayed out of politics?  Before we come to that point, will we rather choose a strongman – say, a Napoleon – to bring order no matter the consequences to libertarian political theory?

Angelo Codevilla was a prescient writer, seeing the divide in America many years ago and where this divide would lead.  I wrote several pieces referencing his work (just search “Codevilla” in the search bar on the right column).  However, I offer his comment most relevant to this topic, written in the run-up to Donald Trump’s election victory in 2016:

We have stepped over the threshold of a revolution. It is difficult to imagine how we might step back, and futile to speculate where it will end. Our ruling class’s malfeasance, combined with insult, brought it about. Donald Trump did not cause it and is by no means its ultimate manifestation. Regardless of who wins in 2016, this revolution’s sentiments will grow in volume and intensity, and are sure to empower politicians likely to make Americans nostalgic for Donald Trump’s moderation.

Trump isn’t the tyrant.  But, when the time comes, would we rather have a tyrant that brings order, or would we prefer a violent revolution?  I think it is going to be one or the other, or one following the other.  In either case, I would rather avoid the violent revolution part.

But what can I do about any of it?  On the political level, almost nothing.  But that’s the rub.  “Almost” leaves the door open a crack.  Yes, we are almost always stuck with the lesser of two evils, and that is certainly true in this election (both major candidates support genocide; once accepted, why would anyone in the United States believe that the same government won’t use this method internally?).

With all of this said, I see a sound argument for Christians to stay out of politics, in every way, shape, and form.  And I also see a sound argument for the idea that if good people stay out of politics, then only evil will win.  Then again, it seems no matter what we do, evil wins in politics.  Can you sense my struggle on this topic?

So, I offer a possibility, something approaching Roger’s view, but maybe not quite all the way there.  A video from Mull Monastery, entitled “The mad circus of having to vote for the lesser evil.”  The video is only about eighteen minutes, and worth watching, but I will summarize it (and paraphrase the comments).

I offer one caveat: he does speak of some sort of government social safety net that he sees as Christian.  No surprise to you, I do not see this as Christian at all.  Good works cannot be offloaded; good works cannot come by taking money from some people and giving it to others.

Every four years, the whole world has to deal with, and somehow survive, another set of US presidential elections.

It really is true.  Even today, with the entire world, outside of the North Atlantic, sees America as the Great Satan (and who can blame them); they see that nothing really important will change.  Even many people who live in the United States and other North Atlantic countries see it the same way. 

We are demanded to stand up for “the Christian choice.”  But this has nothing to do with Christ, or Christ’s Church.  It just has to do with how they pick and choose small pieces from the Gospel.

Everyone has a proof text – as if one verse can be understood out side of any context. 

We do have to give strong, vocal support for the truth as the Church has given witness.  Because the greater evil is to remain silent.  He offers some idea that we do have to consider who might at least protect some sense of a Christian society. 

Further, it is a demonic fear, the one that tells us not to speak out.  This is Christ’s teaching; this is the way to navigate through this mad circus.  We are to speak out.  Yet, we have no Christian choice in our voting. 

There is nothing Christian in the fact that both of the major parties in the US support wars throughout the world, and support the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people every single year.  Both parties support genocides as we speak right now.

There is nothing Christian on either side of this mad battle, this mad circus.

Yet, he concludes that if he lived in the United States, he would vote – and he knows exactly for whom he would vote (he doesn’t say).  He knows that whoever he chooses is not Christ and does not represent His Church.  There is no Christian option, they are both anti-Christian. 

In any given context, one choice is going to be worse than the other.

 We have to stand up for the small goodness – “my God, the world we live in” – when comparing two devils.   

Conclusion

I am not saying vote; I am not saying don’t vote.  I understand the reasons for and against.  But, recognize, there is no Christian option on the ballot.

Epilogue

Returning to a comment from Roger’s post:

There is only one way. Everything else will fail.

One time when I went to lunch with the pastor of the Protestant church that I attend, he said to the waitress: “We are about to pray for our lunch.  Is there anything we can pray for you about.”

I thought we might get piss in our food!  (The community is a very “spiritual, but not religious” community.)  But, no.  She had a prayer request.

Vote or don’t.  But we can all offer this to the world.  And it is more effective than any vote any of us will ever make.

12 comments:

  1. II Chronicles 7:14 is the only answer, indeed.

    Ron Colson, II

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  2. Bionic,

    I appreciate the link and the kind words. Your input is always valued.

    I have been thinking about your "story" about the antagonists in the Spanish Civil War and am puzzled by it. I do not understand why you posted it as a Comment on my article concerning politics as it does not seem to fit and strikes a discordant note within the greater conversation. The only "politics" referred to is various factions fighting with each other for control of the Spanish government.

    In the excerpt shared, one person donated blood (voluntarily) which save the life of the other, who (voluntarily) subsequently saved the lives of the donor and his mother, at the very least. If politics is the use of and manipulation of others for personal gain, then there is no taint of politics in this story. Instead, this seems to be more a lesson in love, self-sacrifice, and service to another.

    "Give, and you shall receive." appears to be the underlying philosophy which is opposed to the political theme which indicates power to achieve control of others for one's personal well-being.

    Am I reading this wrong?

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    1. Roger, admittedly the analogy is muddy. I guess I was trying to point out that the point comes when the lesser of two evils - if that lesser evil is willing to protect me and my family in the face of immediate threat - is an evil to be favored.

      Good people in the West have turned the other cheek to the point of self-destruction. So here the question of self-defense matters - are we completely and fully pacifists (maybe so; maybe we are called to become martyrs today?), or do we as Christians have the room to apply self-defense. And if we do, do we then not have the right to secure others to defend us?

      It gets so messy when the government has the only legal monopoly on the matter.

      I guess the second point of my analogy: if you were a Catholic in Spain, you would prefer Franco over any communist, despite the atrocities he committed.

      When Vienna stood in defense against the Ottomans in 1653, what was right for the Christian in Vienna to do - ask the emperor to stand down, "vote for a pacifist king?

      I know I am rambling, and I know that I am in a gray area. But when my neighbor, to whom I show love, wants to crush me and my family, what do I do? Am I not free to turn to someone for help, even if that "someone" is a formal government agency?

      I guess I have more questions than answers.

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    2. OK, thanks for the explanation. I understand a little better.

      This is a tough issue to handle and I don't have any definite answers. For sure, I am not a pacifist and I do believe that we have the right and authority to defend ourselves, even to the point of deadly violence. After all, even Jesus tolerated, maybe even encouraged, the possession of two swords by his disciples, although he did say that two was enough. A defensive posture is good, too many weapons is problematic.

      I hope that we never experience a "situation" in which we have to defend ourselves violently, but if I found myself there, I would not hesitate.

      Am I contradicting myself?

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    3. Not any more than I am, I guess. I think this is why I have never been able to be dogmatic on the subject of politics (although I appreciate your more expansive understanding of the term). I can understand staying out of it, and I can understand running for office (let alone just voting).

      On the one hand, Jesus carried His cross unto death. By doing so, He cared for His own...which is all of creation.

      On the other hand...

      1 Timothy 5: 8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

      How shall we care for our own? Yes, as you point out: it starts with me. But if my civilization is crumbling, and there are avenues - even political - for me to do something about it, should I not do so?

      At my age, it is almost irrelevant. I can live through the next however long God gives me. But, what of children, grandchildren? What of our neighbors, whom we are called to love?

      See. I am also contradicting myself....

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    4. "Two swords" - one for each hand. Swords, guns, whatever are inanimate objects - one cannot have too many quite frankly. Certainly better to have and not need than need and not have.
      And yes, you are bordering on contradiction.

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    5. "But when my neighbor, to whom I show love, wants to crush me and my family, what do I do? Am I not free to turn to someone for help, even if that "someone" is a formal government agency?"

      Turning to "someone" (a formal government agency) for help in an emergency is not necessarily wrong. The System we live in (and cannot escape) almost compels us to go down that road. This can be seen as a defensive measure against the aggression of you neighbor who wants to crush you and I have no problem with that.

      I think the distinction here is that, while this may be legitimate, we should always view it as defensive. The issue I have tried to describe (poorly, perhaps) is that virtually everyone wants to use the "formal government agency" to crush their neighbor, thus benefitting themselves, which is aggressive in nature, not defensive.

      Admittedly, I am diving into a very deep hole, but I have to follow this where it leads. Christians should not attempt to use government to control their neighbor because they don't approve of his lifestyle or actions. Voting in elections for a "leader" who will restrict one's neighbor is, as far as I can see, as ungodly as trying to do it unilaterally.

      "If you look at a woman with lust in your heart, it is the same as adultery with her."
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      "I guess I have more questions than answers."

      Don't we all? This is what makes life interesting.

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    6. "Swords, guns, whatever are inanimate objects - one cannot have too many quite frankly."

      Anonymous,

      I disagree with this. One can have too many. Owning a few, that is, one for each hand can be considered defensive. Owning far more than what might be needed could result in succumbing to the temptation to use them.

      Consider that the entity which has far, far more weapons than it needs is the US government AND, because it has so many available, uses them wherever and whenever it can to project its power.

      What is the difference between "one" (individual) who has too many weapons and a community of "ones" (government) which has too many? Nothing, except scope and size.

      If one is tempted to use weapons aggressively against another, it is better to be without any. This is a limiting factor over evil behavior and it should apply to everyone across the board.

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    7. The above two comments are mine, just so no one is confused. I hate commenting anonymously as I believe that, if I have something to say, I ought to be courageous enough to put my name behind it.

      My apologies.

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    8. Roger, I appreciate your noting this.

      For me, regarding anonymous comments, what I have tried to do when moderating these is consider the value of the comment: is it adding something to the discussion or subtracting? Is it constructive or destructive? Based on this, I decide to allow the comment or not.

      Now, I consider comments with a name attached in the same way, but I give more leeway, especially if the comment comes from someone who has been part of the discussion community in a positive way for some time.

      It isn't that I am looking for an echo chamber: I have gained much from comments that have been critical, or positing a view contrary to mine. But my moderation on these is always dependent on the presentation and tone.

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  3. Meaning of word politics:
    including decision-making, administration, and public affairs (of the city-state,)

    In monarchy that is almost irrelevant
    in parliamentary monarchy become relevant
    in mass democracy where everyone have right to vote is paramount -- Who, whom?

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  4. I don't think Christians should stay out of politics. I have never voted, but I have influenced a lot of voters who may otherwise have supported a politician. Just like the propaganda says, the war is for hearts and minds. As far as voting goes, not only is it immoral, but it is also futile. There is no Christian candidate, there is no lesser evil, and most importantly, the least influential part of a democracy is the individual voter.

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