tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post8396464031273937377..comments2024-03-28T06:00:18.802-07:00Comments on bionic mosquito: Anthembionic mosquitohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-71165178171036928252017-10-20T17:57:10.923-07:002017-10-20T17:57:10.923-07:00I was surprised by the video too. I guessing that ...I was surprised by the video too. I guessing that the NFL thought that looking tough might appease it's disgruntled fanbase, as if they were a bunch of conscious hate mongers. It was interesting (assuming I'm right) to see them trying to do this while still remaining PC. Jeff LeVesquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10965742156279448637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-90996232137158737842017-10-20T17:42:17.940-07:002017-10-20T17:42:17.940-07:00I did see the video.
The first thing that struck ...I did see the video.<br /><br />The first thing that struck me was the tone deafness of whoever decided to put it on. It is hate that is consuming the NFL: hate because the NFL supports wars, hate because of the anthem protests, hate because of Trump, etc. Why would the NFL emphasize the reality that it is a league built on hate? Why would they make "hate" a virtue, overtly?<br /><br />The next thing - and it may be a continuation of the first, I'm not sure: that video is a microcosm of American foreign policy for 205 years. Hate, followed by hate followed by hate. with one passing mention - as an afterthought - of "love," as was mentioned at the last moment in the video.<br /><br />Finally, it struck me that it would seem odd to many people that black man would be the spokesman for "hate." Why isn't this considered racially insensitive?<br />bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-46067980650294783812017-10-20T15:24:05.733-07:002017-10-20T15:24:05.733-07:00I hope you saw it. The video is no longer up on Yo...I hope you saw it. The video is no longer up on YouTube.Jeff LeVesquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10965742156279448637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-87728534241531964742017-10-20T06:13:45.112-07:002017-10-20T06:13:45.112-07:00BM, did you see the Ving Rhymes piece that was pla...BM, did you see the Ving Rhymes piece that was played before the football game last night?<br /><br />I'd like to know what you think about it. Here is a link in case you didn't see it:<br /><br />https://youtu.be/bXAgqs5XcqYJeff LeVesquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10965742156279448637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-80691260490193136602017-10-16T07:04:12.227-07:002017-10-16T07:04:12.227-07:00Are you going to elaborate, Roddis?
Or just swoop...Are you going to elaborate, Roddis?<br /><br />Or just swoop in, write something, and refuse to interact as usual?Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-82282721624294758872017-10-16T02:16:36.091-07:002017-10-16T02:16:36.091-07:00Cara, are you suggesting that BM is not revolting?...Cara, are you suggesting that BM is not revolting? Jeff LeVesquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10965742156279448637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-24202138327795417802017-10-15T19:31:12.608-07:002017-10-15T19:31:12.608-07:00Just checking to be sure that I didn’t dream this....Just checking to be sure that I didn’t dream this.<br /><br />Matt@Occidentalism.org said: <i>If you are white and have a modicum of self respect you wouldn't be watching the NFL anyway.</i><br /><br />Cara sarcastically said: <i>If you don't travel 10,000 miles to put a bullet in someone's head, but pay the people who do without revolting, you are innocent.</i><br />Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-35687181250975951932017-10-15T18:54:50.340-07:002017-10-15T18:54:50.340-07:00As was solidified by listening to Hoppe (Mises NYC...As was solidified by listening to Hoppe (Mises NYC), Pickett should have turned around, and hopefully Bobby Lee would have followed him back to the Old Dominion.Veterans for Peace Indianapolishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927156876347502654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-25325756031932648552017-10-15T16:11:55.230-07:002017-10-15T16:11:55.230-07:00>If you don't travel 10,000 miles to put a ...>If you don't travel 10,000 miles to put a bullet in someone's head, but pay the people who do without revolting, you are innocent.<br /><br />Excellent point. I endorse.Unhappy Conservative (2.0)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05647440445427537430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-59417161356608123842017-10-15T14:47:45.410-07:002017-10-15T14:47:45.410-07:00VfPI, she's all yours (see below).VfPI, she's all yours (see below).bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-30692878186639576872017-10-15T13:07:32.198-07:002017-10-15T13:07:32.198-07:00I guess it comforts people to think that they are ...I guess it comforts people to think that they are "only victims" of an incremental system of theft and abuse that has been going on for over 100 years, if you haven't served in the military. The American Revolution was over far fewer infringements, but we are like the frog in the pot. Slow, incremental infringements that a vast number of people support either overtly or by their silence. If you don't travel 10,000 miles to put a bullet in someone's head, but pay the people who do without revolting, you are innocent. I get it now. We are indeed very screwed.Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04036130786235588675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-58593922981413566702017-10-15T12:16:07.395-07:002017-10-15T12:16:07.395-07:00Nice piece as usual comrade..........................Nice piece as usual comrade............................mean<br />while fed is making off with more candy<br /><br /><br />Owyhee CowboyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-44123259017322545992017-10-15T09:52:59.166-07:002017-10-15T09:52:59.166-07:00No, not more gentle because you were incremental. ...No, not more gentle because you were incremental. Just trying to point out I at least understand from whence she came, and pray that she keeps going further, to our views. And to remind me that my road to anarcho-capitalism recently was expanded through your immense help in discussions of culture mattering!Veterans for Peace Indianapolishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927156876347502654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-35437317366906142552017-10-15T09:16:18.444-07:002017-10-15T09:16:18.444-07:00VfPI, if you are suggesting that I could have been...VfPI, if you are suggesting that I could have been more gentle in my approach with Cara perhaps this is so.<br /><br />Yet, look at my first reply to her; consider that she wants to equate the victim of theft to those going overseas to commit murder; consider that I have stated this somewhat gently, then firmer with each exchange.<br /><br />But, I am often blind to my own tone; maybe you are right.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-14768549169797872802017-10-15T08:36:03.763-07:002017-10-15T08:36:03.763-07:00But BM, doesn't culture have much to do with t...But BM, doesn't culture have much to do with the choices of these individuals (including me at one point, though I was lucky enough not to use weapons against other people). Our culture is one of worshipping the military and barely questioning what service people are thanking when they say "thank you for your service". I thought I had a fairly well-formed conscience when I joined at 25 years old voluntarily. I'd certainly not join now, but it took discovering Rothbard and really reading Ron Paul (instead of "defending" him by telling people he's not wrong or crazy on everything). Not absolving my decision, but until the culture becomes more peaceful it really will be hard to even help someone like Cara at least curious enough to be on your site to come to our position. It took my period of military "service" to realize I wasn't serving the Prince of Peace but the Devil in the US military. EricVeterans for Peace Indianapolishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927156876347502654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-75768496952302305842017-10-14T18:51:15.493-07:002017-10-14T18:51:15.493-07:00Cara, I have not yet gone 10,000 miles from home a...Cara, I have not yet gone 10,000 miles from home and put a bullet in someone's head. I have not sat in an air conditioned office in Nevada and sent a missile from a drone on top of a wedding party.<br /><br />You equate my being a victim of armed robbery with those who go overseas to murder others who pose no risk to anyone on US soil.<br /><br />You equate me - a victim - with volunteers to go overseas as murderers. <br /><br />Your ethical compass is in drastic need of adjustment. After this much dialogue, I conclude it is beyond repair.<br />bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-62101764973028721822017-10-14T14:57:52.340-07:002017-10-14T14:57:52.340-07:00Cara, the demographic studies indicate many of us ...Cara, the demographic studies indicate many of us troops disproportionately come from middle class vs lower class. Some of the hardness you see is that in a world that basically worships the military if we weren't hard the other way we'd be lost in the muddled middle.Veterans for Peace Indianapolishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927156876347502654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-22982279629140892812017-10-14T09:51:36.205-07:002017-10-14T09:51:36.205-07:00All good points. And none of them in any way cont...All good points. And none of them in any way contradict my original comment. Do "some" people sign up for service in order to go kill people, get in shape, etc? Maybe. I work with lots of vets. Most, as I've described, do so because of limited opportunities to develop skills elsewhere. And for many, that's a good reason. the best recruiting grounds are depressed areas of the country and now, lots of places where young men have been so repressed by 12 years of schooling that they are looking for an outlet - any outlet - where they can be raised as men instead of constantly being expected to behave as girls. Yet, many of you come down hard on these men for doing exactly the same as we are all doing at home - obeying orders and doing nothing to resist. <br /><br />Then these tools on the NFL field decide to take a knee out of respect for a lie, and somehow that's OK? If they were doing it on their own time, sure, they can spend the rest of their lives on their knees for all we care. However, they are doing it on company time. And, as someone noted, at least partially on taxpayer funds. <br /><br />Yes, we are each robbed at gunpoint and we each make a choice to not resist. Which makes us part of it. As with the troops. We all have choices.Carahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04036130786235588675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-81839794319212291312017-10-14T00:04:05.961-07:002017-10-14T00:04:05.961-07:00Cara - it isn't about the troops, or even disr...Cara - it isn't about the troops, or even disrespecting the US government. Its a diss of white people.<br /><br />If you are white and have a modicum of self respect you wouldn't be watching the NFL anyway. Negro athletes standing or kneeling for the anthem is of no consequence.Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-53807941079541564612017-10-13T09:42:03.144-07:002017-10-13T09:42:03.144-07:00"And a Libertarian should support my side.&qu..."And a Libertarian should support my side."<br /><br />That's funny.<br /><br />"...and THAT my friends is the real issue here."<br /><br />Thank you for telling us what to think.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-13587327315912519522017-10-13T06:45:09.597-07:002017-10-13T06:45:09.597-07:00The problem is, I am FORCED at gunpoint to pay for...The problem is, I am FORCED at gunpoint to pay for "their Work". I pay for their stadiums and for their monopoly and tax breaks whether I use their service or not. Stinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00447139000402171738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-65100349758738371242017-10-13T06:39:42.351-07:002017-10-13T06:39:42.351-07:00Well, there must be 4 sides to the argument then. ...Well, there must be 4 sides to the argument then. And a Libertarian should support my side. An Employer has every right to demand his employees stand, dance, wear clown suits, etc... and those employees have every right to quit their jobs and LEAVE the employers property. The same employer can DEMAND that his customers obey his laws while on his property. And those customers have every right to NOT GO on that vendors property pr use his service. The NFL case is a bit different because it is a Government organization that tax payers are FORCED at gun point to pay for their stadiums and tax breaks. and THAT my friends is the real issue here. Stinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00447139000402171738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-69926273918389668452017-10-13T06:15:08.325-07:002017-10-13T06:15:08.325-07:00Why not protest the national anthem which celebrat...Why not protest the national anthem which celebrates the murder of Africans and former slaves? It was written by a slave owner after the war of Northern aggression in 1812 where the British had freed and employed former slaves in the battle. The anthem celebrates the fact that these former slaves were murdered in the 3rd verse:<br /><br />No refuge could save the hireling and slave<br />From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,<br />And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave<br />O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.<br /><br />Some argue that this was not written in support of American slavery, but after the war the U. S. peace treaty negotiators demanded the return of their "property" which had escaped to Canada. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-84513414753682104382017-10-13T04:17:45.139-07:002017-10-13T04:17:45.139-07:00Cara, I am a veteran. Nearly all of us joined not...Cara, I am a veteran. Nearly all of us joined not out of sacrifice (die for the cause, save you, save the flag, etc.) but to be richer, have more fun, get in shape, kill people, or get the glory from "saving the world"--though with no intent to die doing it.<br /><br />Resisting en masses includes the very small start of (1) not having the government's anthem played and (2) if it is, not expecting everyone to say the vaunted (actually evil) military is being disrespected if all don't bow down in worship during it. Until the military apparatus stops doing evil things, in fact it should be belittled. Of course, not even this anthem kerfuffle is about that. A small start, though.Veterans for Peace Indianapolishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15927156876347502654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-31974768039838511862017-10-13T04:09:53.242-07:002017-10-13T04:09:53.242-07:00"I have no choice but to go overseas and kill..."I have no choice but to go overseas and kill innocents." You accept this?<br /><br />As to their having good intentions, the world has offered hundreds of millions dead to those who claim to pursue "good intentions."<br /><br />Stop.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.com