tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post6902690950836386571..comments2024-03-28T09:59:13.754-07:00Comments on bionic mosquito: Far Crybionic mosquitohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-61770501107572507102018-07-09T10:29:09.970-07:002018-07-09T10:29:09.970-07:00Joe Salerno wrote a great piece on Mises' view...Joe Salerno wrote a great piece on Mises' views on immigration and nation, that I think also correspond to the point of your comment:<br /><br />http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2017/03/mises-on-immigration-and-nation.html <br /><br />I certainly see this strain in the Misesian / Rothbardian side of liberalism / libertarianism (evident at LvMI). Unfortunately, as we have discussed before, it strikes me that the universalist strain of libertarians (represented by Reason, Cato, even FEE I believe) make up a larger part of the population.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-59108628203195646902018-07-09T10:16:15.230-07:002018-07-09T10:16:15.230-07:00"It was the flowering of individualism – an o..."It was the flowering of individualism – an outcome of Enlightenment thought – that made possible the power of the State." - BM<br /><br />I came across a wonderful quote this morning which summarizes my views exactly on individualism and collectivism and the confusion over which is the friend or enemy of liberty. (I know we've discussed this at length in the past, but I could not find those discussions to post this as an addendum to them)<br /><br />“The customary terminology misrepresents these things entirely. The philosophy commonly called individualism is a philosophy of social cooperation and the progressive intensification of the social nexus. On the other hand the application of the basic ideas of collectivism cannot result in anything but social disintegration and the perpetuation of armed conflict.” – Mises, Human Action, p152<br /><br />It seems to me that Misesian individualism was perfectly compatible with Nisbetian collectivism. This is my view as well. You could make the case that most individualists of the time in question were not of the Misesian type but rather those which Nisbet disparages, and you might be right for all I know, but I'm not here to debate the specific occurrences of history. I'm here rather to debate the universal truths to be found within them. The truth that I think I can see in this discussion is that Nisbetian individualism (atomism) leads to the advance of the State and the retreat of society, while Misesian individualism leads to the retreat of the State and the advance of society.A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-54223119478494455202018-06-21T06:23:27.808-07:002018-06-21T06:23:27.808-07:00Sag
If I understand your meaning, I will offer th...Sag<br /><br />If I understand your meaning, I will offer the following: the “Libertarians and Culture” tab at the top of this page documents my journey through the intersection and overlaps of the topics libertarianism and culture. I will not suggest that you read perhaps a couple of hundred posts; I will summarize this journey and then perhaps offer an easier way for you to proceed (if you choose).<br /><br />The first link in the tab is here:<br /><br />http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2015/05/bleeding-heart-thick-milquetoast-left.html <br /><br />I introduce this post thusly:<br /><br />“This post offers links to dozens of posts I have written in rebuttal to prominent libertarians and Austrians who I believe have distorted or destroyed the philosophy. I am often not kind.”<br /><br />You need not read dozens of posts: I offer a few introductory words for each post – you will get enough from these – if any intrigue you to click, so be it.<br /><br />Many of these are attacks on left-libertarians. So, one day I was challenged: why don’t you take on Hoppe the same way you take on the left? I had, of course, by then already read Hoppe – but not in the systematic way that I subsequently developed. So, much of the continuation in the “Libertarians and Culture” tab is a continuation of this dialogue – which also was greatly influenced by my understanding of medieval law, first introduced to me by Fritz Kern (and a dialogue to which you now contribute). Again, each of the posts is summarized, so you need not click any of these.<br /><br />So that’s about it. I have been encouraged to turn all of this into a book or at least to better organize the topics. I really struggle with doing anything “organized” with this blog; whenever I try, I find it is nowhere near as enjoyable as writing new posts and discussing with feedbackers. <br />bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-69967717500663940272018-06-21T05:47:59.048-07:002018-06-21T05:47:59.048-07:00ATL
"If only this last one were still true. ...ATL<br /><br /><i>"If only this last one were still true. I think it is pretty clear the Catholic Church has been overrun by those enthralled with the modern fashion of the world (i.e. democratic socialist wealth redistribution and regulation of trade)"</i><br /><br />True. No need to go into details here of the how and why, but so very true.<br /><br />BM<br /><br />Well, I don't know to be honest. As a pun, and also a logical complementary to <i>Heresy</i>, I sort of imagined a delightful double treat after you referenced Belloc in your article.<br /><br />An <i>orthodoxy</i> article as a follow-up could take many directions. Could be a rather ironical one about "<i>sola</i> NAP" orthodoxy, but that's probably not you. Could also be a light-hearted one in Chestertonian fashion about libertarian orthodoxy beyond the NAP, which would be a continuation in line with the points made by FvD. Could even be one about the (unintended) consequences of global idealism re: the NAP, though I myself would file that under heresy.<br /><br />It might also be that the article has already been written here at your blog. Many things to read, so little time.<br /><br />-Sag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-41913522417462783142018-06-21T05:09:44.830-07:002018-06-21T05:09:44.830-07:00Sag, what orthodoxy article are you waiting for?Sag, what orthodoxy article are you waiting for?bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-17860500719005864402018-06-21T05:05:42.374-07:002018-06-21T05:05:42.374-07:00Whatever modifications are or aren't going on ...Whatever modifications are or aren't going on in the brain that may or may not affect the balance between long term and short term thinking, as ATL suggests: less state and more freedom has a way of focusing man's attention on maintaining the balance necessary.<br /><br />What may or may not happen in the brain thereafter...above my pay grade.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-55391090513063777572018-06-20T11:37:25.022-07:002018-06-20T11:37:25.022-07:00EMP, yes this is a case of epigenetics.
Actually ...EMP, yes this is a case of epigenetics.<br /><br />Actually it is a marvellous invention., this shifting between long term and short term orientation. Long term provides the basis, then when things go well, the long term planning causes an abundance. Short term takes over and explodes the population, parts of the population leave the habitat to look for new pastures. Then the abundance ends and society switches back to long term planning.<br /><br />It's truly beautiful how nature makes use of this switching back and forward to drive optimum spread of a species.<br /><br /><br />ATL: I am hoping that in the next swing to long term planning (which is underway imo) we can put more effort in researching this effect and so make it part of general education. Maybe that way it won't be necessary to plan the level of hardship from the top down.Rienhttp://overbeterleven.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-9675213558666738692018-06-20T09:40:19.551-07:002018-06-20T09:40:19.551-07:00All,
Claims to biology suggesting some deeper, mo...All,<br /><br />Claims to biology suggesting some deeper, more profound explanation for social phenomena have the benefit of sounding scientific. Oftentimes however, the claims are either heavily reductionist or they amount to a tautological truism. Sometimes the interpretation of scientific research serves an obvious political agenda: like <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds" rel="nofollow">this one here</a>, pushing the progressivist meme of <i>"scared conservatives with large amygdala, victims of authoritarian parenting"</i>. <br /><br />Before you know it, you're on a pretty slippery slope with these kind of "scientific" rationalizations to suit a certain narrative.<br /><br />Brain imaging techniques showing altered morphology in response to differing social networks are testimony to the obvious fact that brains reflect (and thus adapt to) surroundings. Social surroundings in particular for a social being. Fascinating stuff for sure, but really nothing special as far as societal implications go. Introduce developing brains to social networks of differing complexity and on average, the amygdala will reflect the difference. Yes, and? It explains very little besides the obvious. Society is reasonably well off >> people will come up with views, theories even, reflecting/explaining the prosperity. <br /><br />That's it, really. No need to point out adapted brain structures to suggest some deeper understanding, for these adaptations are assumed. Altered social structures logically imply adapted brains. That's what brains do. What matters in human affairs is the choices people make and that is where human consciousness and, indeed, free will trump neurobiology.<br /><br />I'll leave it here. Thank you @Rien for your answer.<br /><br />-Sag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-10089981082997053372018-06-20T07:51:27.009-07:002018-06-20T07:51:27.009-07:00Sag and Rien,
More specifically, see transgenera...Sag and Rien, <br /><br />More specifically, see <i>transgenerational epigenetic inheritance.</i>EMPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-28007831300284634382018-06-20T07:37:22.514-07:002018-06-20T07:37:22.514-07:00"Sounds rather 'Lamarckian' to me, wh..."Sounds rather 'Lamarckian' to me, which makes it interesting. Care to elaborate at bit? How (by what mechanism) did prosperity affect our "biology..."<br /><br /><b>Epigenetics</b><br />the study of changes in organisms caused by modification of gene expression rather than alteration of the genetic code itself. <br /><br />E. g. r/K SelectionEMPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-88289607372383814142018-06-20T07:09:24.620-07:002018-06-20T07:09:24.620-07:00I was thinking that it was interesting that Cheste...I was thinking that it was interesting that Chesterton was Catholic and not Anglican, so I went searching for a reason, and I found this essay he wrote.<br /><br />https://www.chesterton.org/why-i-am-a-catholic/<br /><br />"Nine out of ten of what we call new ideas are simply old mistakes. The Catholic Church has for one of her chief duties that of preventing people from making those old mistakes..."<br /><br />"There is no other case of one continuous intelligent institution that has been thinking about thinking for two thousand years."<br /><br />"The Church does often set herself against the fashion of this world that passes away; and she has experience enough to know how very rapidly it does pass away."<br /><br />If only this last one were still true. I think it is pretty clear the Catholic Church has been overrun by those enthralled with the modern fashion of the world (i.e. democratic socialist wealth redistribution and regulation of trade)A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-3342194848360333382018-06-20T07:01:06.144-07:002018-06-20T07:01:06.144-07:00Rien,
"Not without a mass-awareness of the u...Rien,<br /><br />"Not without a mass-awareness of the underlying principles."<br /><br />There's that pesky "irrelevant" free will. ;)<br /><br />"when a society switches from long-term planning to short-term pleasure seeking"<br /><br />There's no doubt that hardship is the forge of integrity; this is partly why competition on the open market yields better results when compared to the protected privilege of state managed or funded provision of goods. But what level of hardship is appropriate or ethical to impose on society in order to stem the tide from long term virtue planning to short term pleasure seeking?<br /><br />It brings to mind the plot of the "Constantine" movie wherein the Archangel Gabriel tries to introduce the son of Satan into the world in order to bring about Hell on Earth to make the human race more noble through hellish tribulation. Perhaps that is going too far? But then again, who am I to judge the actions of an archangel?<br /><br />I think freedom provides the necessary balance of competition/cooperation, hardship/leisure and security/insecurity to keep pleasure seeking from getting out of hand. Under the modern democratic nanny state, most of us suffer under the delusion that the state has taken care of all the dangers and insecurities of life, so all we need to care about is having fun. Even though this umbrella is full of holes when you look closely, it still encourages most under it to disregard the things a freeman would have to remain vigilant of (mainly because they either refuse to inspect or are incapable of inspecting the umbrella).<br /><br />A freeman worries about his reputation, his lifestyle, and his conduct, whereas a state subject doesn't worry too much because he's aware of equal opportunity and nondiscrimination laws and the relative lack of (or less importance of) intermediate institutions like church and guild. A freeman worries about invasion from abroad; a state subject relegates this worry to the state military. A freeman worries about domestic invasions; a state subject leaves this to the state police. A freeman worries about the integrity of legal decisions; a state subject blindly trusts the state court system. And on and on...A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-71685257320169246372018-06-19T23:01:00.888-07:002018-06-19T23:01:00.888-07:00Sag, think Amygdala and ACC (Anterior Cingularis C...Sag, think Amygdala and ACC (Anterior Cingularis Cortex).<br /><br />In a society that is just managing to hold on the amygdala is highly developed and the ACC is comparatively subdued. Resulting in a behaviour is is mostly associated with long term strategies.<br /><br />When people are raised in highly affluent societies the amygdala is underdeveloped and the ACC is highly active. Resulting in behaviour that is pleasure seeking, short term oriented.<br /><br />Just speculating, but what if CL is a combination of both an active amygdala and an active ACC? This would presumably occur when a society switches from long-term planning to short-term pleasure seeking. Creating a relatively short window where a higher percentage of people chase CL.<br /><br />Btw the connection between underdeveloped amygdala and leftist politics has been proven in a couple of experiments.<br />Rienhttp://overbeterleven.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-82283175126994684542018-06-19T14:53:45.893-07:002018-06-19T14:53:45.893-07:00Hi Rien,
"We build a culture that gave prosp...Hi Rien,<br /><br /><i>"We build a culture that gave prosperity to all, this affected our biology and ensured that we behaved in line with what we now call CL."</i><br /><br />Sounds rather "Lamarckian" to me, which makes it interesting. Care to elaborate at bit? How (by what mechanism) did prosperity affect our "biology," and what did the resulting change look like in your view?<br /><br />-Sag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-59638510925612300272018-06-19T14:12:12.320-07:002018-06-19T14:12:12.320-07:00I also appreciate the insight of the two opposing ...I also appreciate the insight of the two opposing things that parents want.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-16938364723687296562018-06-19T14:11:25.017-07:002018-06-19T14:11:25.017-07:00"What about technological progress?"
Wo..."What about technological progress?"<br /><br />Woody, I touched on this (barely) here, and have noted it before - and I agree with the view that it is not an insignificant point.<br /><br />The economic and technological gains did not happen in earlier times, perhaps due to the reasons as you note. These gains may have made the destruction of intermediating institutions inevitable, which then made the growth of the State inevitable.<br /><br />It is a significant topic to consider: had medieval law and Christendom continued, would this necessarily have precluded the technological advances?<br /><br />There were advances during the Middle Ages, and science was not as inflexible as stereotyped:<br /><br />http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-industrial-revolution-of-middle-ages.html <br /><br />In any case, as man was freed from the old institutions, industry grew; as industry grew, man was further freed from the old institutions.<br /><br />Is there a reasonable "marriage" between these seemingly different strings? Big question.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-33180710722126703782018-06-19T13:32:17.308-07:002018-06-19T13:32:17.308-07:00"I see a parallel between my list and my thin..."I see a parallel between my list and my thinking about libertarianism (and pretty much all that I do):"<br /><br />I think both modes of thought (the abstract and the concrete) are vital. A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-66686870967042011092018-06-19T11:55:36.308-07:002018-06-19T11:55:36.308-07:00ATL, I don't care about free wil, it's irr...ATL, I don't care about free wil, it's irrelevant to me.<br /><br />But if biology really is the driver then there is still a individual leash that allows movement to "the other side". However in toto, averaged over the entire population, no, then there is no avoiding what is happening. Not without a mass-awareness of the underlying principles.Rienhttp://overbeterleven.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-84294932733435968252018-06-19T11:08:44.904-07:002018-06-19T11:08:44.904-07:00I agree with much that this article has to offer. ...I agree with much that this article has to offer. I have an issue, though. What about technological progress? There has been more of that in the past 200 years than in all the previous centuries combined and the reason must be sought in the conditions of the times. In a society where people can break away from tradition (such as taking up the same trade as their father) dreams and ideas can be imagined and capital sought to bring such ideas into reality. We should also trace the current high costs and lack of progress in the sciences to changes in those conditions. <br /><br />It may be that, so long as men seek the easy way out, that a culture of liberty cannot be sustained. Perhaps both tolerance and intolerance, progress and stasis, liberty and tyranny can be used to destroy mankind. <br /><br />Maybe Rein is partially right. I would suggest that there is a cycle and that it stems less from biology and more from natural desires. All good parents want 2 opposing things for their children: first, that their children have an easier life than they did and second, that their children turn out better than they did. These are opposing because most people do not realize that it's the opposition in all things that make people better and an easier life will most likely turn out lesser men - and lesser men put comfort and ease first. And there's your cycle.Woody Barretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07174366266746908252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-58279872075027940172018-06-19T10:54:55.592-07:002018-06-19T10:54:55.592-07:00Was the concept of individualism really devised an...Was the concept of individualism really devised and deployed by the political class as a ruse to multiply and extend their power ? Or has political power itself not steadily inserted itself at ever more fine grained levels in its evolution from the control of territory in the medieval era to the control of populations in the era of the modern state ? Take Robert Peel's Metropolitan Police established in 1829. Peel's idea was to so multiply the number of 'watchmen', the number of police, that police could carry out their surveillance down to the level of the individual. The police would know every individual in the town, maintain records on them, and act deliberately to cultivate civility among individuals. Peel's police now monitoring society at its most fine grained level replaced the Statute of Winchester devised in 1285 and which required individuals witnessing a crime to raise a 'hue and cry' - the reason being that watchman were so few as to permit only course surveillance and needed the collective hue and cry to guide them toward the crime. Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985538497409080098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-17241471991260266192018-06-19T09:37:29.172-07:002018-06-19T09:37:29.172-07:00"..the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate,...<i>"..the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect."</i><br /><br />Some context for those not yet familiar with Chesterton's work, the "wild truth" refers to the Church.<br /><br />So as I said earlier, after the great <i>Heresy</i> here's to anticipating BM's <i>Orthodoxy</i> article. Can't wait.. ;)<br /><br />-Sag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-17675816744444819932018-06-19T09:13:15.213-07:002018-06-19T09:13:15.213-07:00ATL, I thought about the list after I commented - ...ATL, I thought about the list after I commented - more, I thought about how I described my "virtues."<br /><br />I see a parallel between my list and my thinking about libertarianism (and pretty much all that I do): virtues are abstract concepts; I offered mine in concrete actions. As you have pointed out, underlying these concrete actions are abstract virtues.<br /><br />I write about libertarianism in a similar way, I think. Turning abstract into concrete: not libertarianism in theory but in a world of humans with all the frailties we carry.<br /><br />For 3, I am not far removed from growing up in places that ranged somewhere between difficult and hell. Perhaps results in humility, generosity, gratefulness...bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-74149241784508812742018-06-19T08:15:29.776-07:002018-06-19T08:15:29.776-07:00Chesterton is so dang quotable! That is a great on...Chesterton is so dang quotable! That is a great one. Here is one of my many favorites:<br /><br />"It is always simple to fall; there are an infinity of angles at which one falls, only one at which one stands. To have fallen into any one of the fads from Gnosticism to Christian Science would indeed have been obvious and tame. But to have avoided them all has been one whirling adventure; and in my vision the heavenly chariot flies thundering through the ages, the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect."A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-71509455046917348772018-06-19T07:40:29.604-07:002018-06-19T07:40:29.604-07:00"What if this is just plain old biology?"..."What if this is just plain old biology?"<br /><br />I think that in making that argument, you'd be denying free will. I think there are deterministic forces in human affairs, but there is also, undeniably, the force of free will. We have a choice to deny immediate incentives and desires in favor of deferred incentives and higher values.<br /><br />"What if CL was just a post-hoc rationalization?"<br /><br />I think there is some truth to this.A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-33506277497637226302018-06-19T07:25:00.027-07:002018-06-19T07:25:00.027-07:00I would say 1. and 2. are well encapsulated by fid...I would say 1. and 2. are well encapsulated by fidelity or the Roman fides. Also the old motto of the London Stock Exchange, Dictum Meum Pactum (my word is my bond) fits with both.<br /><br />3 is perhaps piety or the Roman pietas, as in a reverence for those who came before you and their traditions, depending on exactly what you mean.<br /><br />I didn't list piety as one of my family's virtues because I feel it is part of wisdom and fidelity. In other words, it is wise to revere the past, and we have duties not only to those we know and love in our time, but to those who came before us and those yet to come.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing.A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.com