tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post3076054533745610773..comments2024-03-28T09:59:13.754-07:00Comments on bionic mosquito: Aristotle’s Metaphysicsbionic mosquitohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-43914711532426470142019-01-10T06:33:53.746-08:002019-01-10T06:33:53.746-08:00I'm a tourist in the classical realm as well, ...I'm a tourist in the classical realm as well, but I think I first heard this distinction on family and property between Aristotle and Plato while listening to a lecture from the Abbeville Institute, though I can't remember which one.<br /><br />At the time, I wrote a note of it and attributed it to Robert Nisbet. It was interesting because the lecturer (whether following Nisbet or not I cannot remember) traced Plato's anti-family/anti-property position to Rousseau and Marx and Aristotle's pro-family/pro-property position to Burke and Tocqueville.A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-11283808142028151192019-01-08T19:15:51.567-08:002019-01-08T19:15:51.567-08:00I look forward to this! I look forward to this! Thomas Batemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06493366024392863302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-82487275185839133072019-01-07T16:08:30.306-08:002019-01-07T16:08:30.306-08:00RMB, at the moment I don't have a good answer ...RMB, at the moment I don't have a good answer for you. I am a babe trying to work through a master's course.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-40166032558366092952019-01-07T16:04:58.833-08:002019-01-07T16:04:58.833-08:00ATL, regarding your question on ends / means, I to...ATL, regarding your question on ends / means, I took it as the latter of your two possibilities.<br /><br />As to your other comments (including a future post on this Abrahamic trinity)...I mentioned in my initial post in this series that I am traveling in what is, for me, uncharted territory. <br /><br />Prior to working through this book, anything I might have known / understood about Platonic / Aristotelian logic / philosophy I knew only because I live in a western culture. <br /><br />In other words, for me until now it has been through nature (society), not nurture (education, either formal or self-directed). <br /><br />I am very hesitant to offer opinion on these topics (although given what you say about the distinction regarding family, yes...Aristotle all the way). I am taking tiny steps.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-64796416768914157622019-01-07T11:46:13.719-08:002019-01-07T11:46:13.719-08:00Wonder how Aristotle defended the existence of the...Wonder how Aristotle defended the existence of the the 4 causes. Or was it simply that he asserted and defended the distinction of actuality and potentiality? The ideas make sense but don't know how you logically defend it outside of listing examples. The issue with that is the issue is just waiting for a counter example.<br /><br />The discussion about the 4 causes reminds me of how the issue of origins is defined by Intelligent Design.RMBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-14909688592581954062019-01-07T09:51:51.101-08:002019-01-07T09:51:51.101-08:00"It isn’t that the ends justify the means; it..."It isn’t that the ends justify the means; it is that the ends define the means." - BM<br /><br />Is this a repudiation of the philosophy that the ends justify the means, or is it simply a way of stating that without a goal, the means of achieving the goal would have never been realized. <br /><br />"Medieval Christians, Jews and Muslims used the work of Plato and Aristotle to demolish the foundations of pagan culture" - BM<br /><br />Now this sounds like an interesting future post! Unless I'm having a 'Monday moment' and you've already done this.<br /><br />Speaking of this, have you written anything about Aristotle and Plato's different treatments on the subject of the family and how this relates to their different ideal forms of political organization and those who'd followed in their respective lines of thought? This question is more directed at your overarching quest or end to trace the roots of liberty through culture and tradition and not necessarily to this particular post. This question could also tie in with your treatment of Althusius and Bodin.<br /><br />The fundamental distinction is that Aristotle is in favor of the nuclear family and private property whereas Plato is for a communal extended family and communal property, at least among the elite ruling caste. So Aristotle is the proto-libertarian and Plato is the proto-socialist. Given this, have you also noticed that many so-called conservative intellectuals glorify the work of Plato?A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.com