Tom
Woods interviewed Matt Zwolinski on Matt’s Basic Income Guarantee (BIG)
proposal, and Matt’s belief that it is a libertarian proposal. It is worth listening to the discussion if
you have an interest on this topic. To make
a long story short: if you think the idea is cuckoo, you will only think this
all-the-more after listening to several of Matt’s responses. If you think the idea is…libertarian, a
critical listen should shake your belief.
I have written a few posts on Matt’s views: certainly
regarding his BIG
proposal; regarding his concerns
about BIG as a libertarian proposal (don’t get your hopes up); also, he
suggests libertarians reject
the non-aggression principle (which, of course, is necessary if one wants
to support BIG).
I have never been very kind or courteous in my writing on
these topics; in the interview, Tom is much more a gentleman – a BIGger man
than am I. Tom asks many insightful
questions, and leaves nothing unturned.
What is BIG? Matt
suggests that government cancel all existing welfare-type programs and replace
these with a $10,000 annual stipend to every American adult. He suggests that libertarians support this on
two grounds:
First, practical: it is more efficient, less costly, and
less intrusive than current programs.
When Tom points out that simple math suggests that Matt’s proposal is
more than twice as expensive as current
welfare programs, Matt agrees and then suggests some form of means testing,
etc. – which, of course, violates the “less intrusive” aspect of his proposal.
Second, on a moral basis: it is not appropriate to suggest –
as some libertarians do – that it is assumed all current titles to property are
legitimate unless direct evidence can be provided to the contrary: theft,
documented expropriation on an individual level, etc.
Matt admits that figuring out precisely who owes what to who
is difficult – if not impossible – practically speaking. Therefore everybody should owe the $10,000 annually
to everybody else (I know, I don’t get it either). Matt also admits that his theory would require
redistribution across the globe (as the poorest American is better off than the
vast majority of the remaining world population) – requiring some kind of world
body to establish and enforce (but he doesn’t want to call this global body a “government”
– you know, because they will just ask nicely and everyone will voluntarily
hand over the $10,000).
I suggest the following with 100% certainty: every single
person on the planet has both gained from and been a victim of some form of
property injustice somewhere in his past.
To attempt to resolve this in any method other than individual property
claims based on individual circumstance is the ultimate war of all against all.
There is much more to the interview; but here you have it in
a nutshell.