tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post4572350368615547194..comments2024-03-18T11:28:36.841-07:00Comments on bionic mosquito: Thank You, Jacobbionic mosquitohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-30308789112097878992024-02-08T16:32:44.968-08:002024-02-08T16:32:44.968-08:00Thank you Bionic.Thank you Bionic.Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-43214653069226281492024-02-08T10:30:42.162-08:002024-02-08T10:30:42.162-08:00Nice to hear from you, Nick.Nice to hear from you, Nick.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-64668253561588494672024-02-08T08:09:51.290-08:002024-02-08T08:09:51.290-08:008 years later, this exchange came up in my mind to...8 years later, this exchange came up in my mind today and I see it's aged well for me, but not so much for Jacob. :)Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-79768959483257505132016-06-15T01:49:32.520-07:002016-06-15T01:49:32.520-07:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXzubuENjHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXzubuENjHk<br />straw mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-89586682328723647142016-06-06T10:05:55.947-07:002016-06-06T10:05:55.947-07:00"Matt@Occidentalism.orgJune 2, 2016 at 1:00 A..."Matt@Occidentalism.orgJune 2, 2016 at 1:00 AM"<br /><br />Yup. And look at JH. Another Jew supporting the destruction of white people through immigration. Surprised? Too many of them seem to have that goal. And far too many of them have WAY too much power. IMO Barbara Spectre should be imprisoned for life for treason or deported.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-73102676224834115252016-06-04T06:14:48.606-07:002016-06-04T06:14:48.606-07:00Regarding the history, I can add nothing and thank...Regarding the history, I can add nothing and thank you for your thoughts.<br /><br />Regarding Hornberger...I don't know. He seems more autistic than cultural marxist.<br /><br />I say this because the cultural marxist would have done a much better job of defending his position and attacking mine (and yours and others who have commented). Once this didn't work, the cultural marxist would have gone full Rambo - scorched earth verbal violence.<br /><br />Hornberger did none of this. He kept repeating the same words over and over - in a reasonably polite manner - very autistic. He avoided confronting the criticisms and counterpoints.<br /><br />I am not saying I know one way or another about Hornberger, but these characteristics came out to me during this exchange.<br /><br />I do believe his FFF runs on a shoestring - a year or so ago he had to let Sheldon Richman go - as good a left-libertarian as there is. This unlike what is found at SFL and Cato (as two examples) where the idea of limited budgets and cost control seem non-existent. bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-19115719932932807992016-06-03T20:41:11.745-07:002016-06-03T20:41:11.745-07:00BM, I don't deny that. There is a difference, ...BM, I don't deny that. There is a difference, I believe.<br /><br />Those old school leftist libertarians believed that things like hierarchy would fall away if the state did not exist or was severely pared down. But in general they believed in freedom of association, free markets, etc, but their motivations for doing so were different to right wing libertarian.<br /><br />This is different. What I am suggesting is that this is a conscious infiltration. Hornberger is saying that higher taxes, no freedom of association, etc, is "freedom". At first I thought that Hornberger was just one of those "autistic libertarians" that is up in the ivory tower and unable to see the consequences of his ideas. Thanks to your interaction with him I see that he is doing this consciously. He is a cultural marxist that is working towards the end of the west, and he has tailored his message towards libertarians with libertarian sounding rhetoric, but which is really poison for anyone that imbibes it.<br /><br />You see this in the Libertarian Party today. Their Presidential Candidate, Gary Johnson, said that people that refuse to bake wedding cakes for homosexuals belong in prison. Hornberger essentially does the same. Europeans are being viciously persecuted by their governments for opposition to immigration, often resulting in official harrassment or even prison sentences. This is the "freedom" of which Hornberger speaks.<br /><br />Hornberger is doing this deliberately. Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-63150467967546101592016-06-03T20:00:59.962-07:002016-06-03T20:00:59.962-07:00That it is. I originally read it as a chapter in...That it is. I originally read it as a chapter in Democracy the God that Failed, and it is better to read it there because of the impressive footnotes which are really an education in themselves.<br /><br />I was pleased, revisiting it today, to see that he referenced the 1965 Immigration Act and the work of Peter Brimelow (in the footnotes) who I referenced in above post- he runs Vdare.com<br /><br />In fact Hoppe draws on a lot of material, like that of the late Philippe Rushton, that is considered heretical in many [cultural marxist] libertarian circles. So of course they treat him as thought criminal for not going along with cultural marxist dogma. It shouldn't be surprising that he does not give audio interviews.UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-52444914912251967242016-06-03T19:51:09.377-07:002016-06-03T19:51:09.377-07:00I do not know enough of the history of the roots o...I do not know enough of the history of the roots of libertarianism, but from what little I have read the leftist strain was always strong. Rothbard (and today Hoppe) might have been the exception, not the rule.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-22113471540635515802016-06-03T19:09:35.301-07:002016-06-03T19:09:35.301-07:00The problem we have here is that Hornberger is say...The problem we have here is that Hornberger is saying "I am a libertarian" while demanding that the state (his "night watchman state") bring in foreigners and dump them on the hapless taxpaying citizenry. And if you oppose it you are against "freedom". This is just a cultural Marxist message tailored towards libertarians. Using the buzzwords without the substance. <br /><br />Has anyone failed to noticed the massive cultural Marxist infiltration of libertarianism, pissing on the legacy of Murray Rothbard? Without doubt the majority of people describing themselves as "libertarian" today are cultural Marxists seeking to push that agenda with libertarian style rhetoric. <br /><br />It's not important what people say that they are, but what they do. Jesus offers some wisdom about spotting these kinds of people. <br /><br />15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them". <br />Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-34717349468319467472016-06-03T18:53:03.199-07:002016-06-03T18:53:03.199-07:00UC, I don't believe I have ever read this befo...UC, I don't believe I have ever read this before by Hoppe, or if I had it was in the very early days - pre-bionic.<br /><br />It is very good. I offer the link here for those interested:<br /><br />https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/hans-hermann-hoppe/on-free-immigration-and-forced-integration/ bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-25755832187839426952016-06-03T18:29:11.450-07:002016-06-03T18:29:11.450-07:00UC,
I was not referring to your argument - yours ...UC,<br /><br />I was not referring to your argument - yours was cogent.<br /><br />The comment from Anon strikes me as being reactionary rather than contemplative. He starts from a ridiculous hypothesis and tacks on sentences from there that give the tone of not appreciating Hoppian or Rothbardian ideas without any indication of having understood them.<br /><br />I formulated a longer reply which fell into the nether of the internet unfortunately. Now, I'm working on a post that I think will help clarify my thoughts on what I see as a root issue in communicating a Miseian type of viewpoint.Alaska3636https://www.blogger.com/profile/13251275012030359766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-56613964402283049532016-06-03T17:13:54.146-07:002016-06-03T17:13:54.146-07:00"As far as immigration policies are concerned..."As far as immigration policies are concerned, the incentives and disincentives are likewise distorted, and the results are equally perverse. For a democratic ruler, it also matters little whether bums or geniuses, below or above-average civilized and productive people immigrate into the country. Nor is he much concerned about the distinction between temporary workers (owners of work permits) and permanent, property owning immigrants (naturalized citizens). In fact, bums and unproductive people may well be preferable as residents and citizens, because they cause more so-called “social” problem,” and democratic rulers thrive on the existence of such problems. Moreover, bums and inferior people will likely support his egalitarian policies, whereas geniuses and superior people will not. The result of this policy of non-discrimination is forced integration: the forcing of masses of inferior immigrants onto domestic property owners who, if they could have decided for themselves, would have sharply discriminated and chosen very different neighbors for themselves. Thus, the United States immigration laws of 1965, as the best available example of democracy at work, eliminated all formerly existing “quality” concerns and the explicit preference for European immigrants and replaced it with a policy of almost complete non-discrimination (multi-culturalism)."<br /><br /><br />"[Abolishing forced integration]...means distinguishing strictly between “citizens” (naturalized immigrants) and “resident aliens” and excluding the latter from all welfare entitlements. It means requiring as necessary, for resident alien status as well as for citizenship, the personal sponsorship by a resident citizen and his assumption of liability for all property damage caused by the immigrant. It implies requiring an existing employment contract with a resident citizen; moreover, for both categories but especially that of citizenship, it implies that all immigrants must demonstrate through tests not only (English) language proficiency, but all-around superior (above-average) intellectual performance and character structure as well as a compatible system of values – with the predictable result of a systematic pro-European immigration bias."<br /><br />-Hans-Herman Hoppe, On Free Immigration and Forced Integration<br /><br />UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-6064241066088152242016-06-03T12:42:16.239-07:002016-06-03T12:42:16.239-07:00Anon-Lawyer,
This is a follow up to my reply, it ...Anon-Lawyer,<br /><br />This is a follow up to my reply, it may appear first.<br /><br />I forgot to mention. One of my favorite episodes of Tom Woods' show was his interview with James Kalb a few weeks ago. Kalb wrote the book The Tyranny of Liberalism and I share most of his views on the subject. Check it out if you haven't heard it and have the time.<br /><br />Also, I listen to every episode Tom does with Paul Gottfried as I am a huge fan of his work, and he did one recently about his new book on Fascism. Great stuff.UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-52008030024846355142016-06-03T12:18:29.637-07:002016-06-03T12:18:29.637-07:00Anon-Lawyer,
Hilarious twitter exchange. I love ...Anon-Lawyer,<br /><br />Hilarious twitter exchange. I love Tom Woods and if there was an actual Libertarian Party, he should be head of it. I agree with Justin Raimondo on the preeminence of foreign policy. I would support any hardcore anti-war candidate even if they were commie trash, but apparently with people like Johnson you don't even get that much, instead its Cultural Marxism at home and imperial wars abroad. In fact, the wars of the future will probably be justified on the grounds that Country X doesn't allow gay wedding cakes.<br /><br />The LP and the Beltarians are demonstrative of how far down the Cultural Marxist rabbit hole we are. Just like the cuckservatives, their role is to lose and accept the premises of the left.<br /><br />I wonder what it is that the donors get of the LP, Cato, and Reason? I would say controlled opposition but they don't even oppose anything, they don't even pretend to oppose anything.<br /><br />Freedom of association has always been the elephant in the milquetoast libertarian room. In fact it was why I was a natural libertarian. I was always disgusted by the idea of forcing undesirables into your community or business. I used to think most Americans shared my view on that, but after being told to my face by many people that I was an evil racist I came to a different conclusion.<br /><br />I wonder what Hornberger's view on the subject is.UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-68185185189612205322016-06-03T08:26:32.017-07:002016-06-03T08:26:32.017-07:00Hi Bionic Commenters: I have posted a new article ...Hi Bionic Commenters: I have posted a new article on the libertarian/immigration/anarchy debate: http://fff.org/2016/06/03/open-borders-moral-practical-solution/<br /><br />Best regards,<br />JacobAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041542998873125525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-54468993248914734582016-06-03T08:26:31.596-07:002016-06-03T08:26:31.596-07:00Hi Bionic Commenters: I have posted a new article ...Hi Bionic Commenters: I have posted a new article on the libertarian/immigration/anarchy debate: http://fff.org/2016/06/03/open-borders-moral-practical-solution/<br /><br />Best regards,<br />JacobAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041542998873125525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-47784805598602322262016-06-02T19:15:52.075-07:002016-06-02T19:15:52.075-07:00UC -
You should check out Tom Woods' piece a...UC - <br /><br />You should check out Tom Woods' piece at LewRockwell today (June 2).<br /><br />Woods reveals the twitter exchange he had with David Boaz and J.D. Tucelle the latter of whom writes for Reason.<br /><br />Woods speaks for me and expresses my view of libertarianism. You will note that he skewers the beltway libertarians for embracing Johnson / Weld notwithstanding Weld's support for the Iraq war and Johnson's support for forcing Christian wedding photographers to photograph gay weddings and Christian bakers baking wedding cakes for gay couples.<br /><br />Woods captures the essence of the beltway libertarian mindset: Its okay to support Bill Weld because he has admitted it was a mistake to support the Iraq war but it is not okay to support anybody who favors freedom of association over hurt feelings.<br /><br />Anon-Lawyer Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-44077467112492758612016-06-02T18:45:51.865-07:002016-06-02T18:45:51.865-07:00"What I still cannot understand is how an ana..."What I still cannot understand is how an anarchist can advocate drug laws or immigration laws simply because the state enacts a welfare law in response"<br /><br />This is a straw man. What many of us object to is being forced by the State to put up with something we would otherwise reject.<br /><br />We have been deprived of our ability to enact justice and physically remove undesirables because of the State's monopoly. Not wanting the State to do something does not mean not wanting it done at all. If the choice is between criminals being punished by the State or not being punished at all, I choose the State. If the choice is between Fascism and Anarcho-Tyranny, I choose Fascism.<br /><br />UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-40559809626106928852016-06-02T18:15:27.307-07:002016-06-02T18:15:27.307-07:00"Let's also not forget that babies who ar..."Let's also not forget that babies who are born of American families are likely to be statists and vote Democrat for more welfare-state programs."<br /><br />Let's also not forget that [the higher quantity of] babies born of Latin American, Arab, and African families will certainly be statists and vote for welfare along tribal ethnic lines.<br /><br />UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-10242404421010591692016-06-02T17:13:46.617-07:002016-06-02T17:13:46.617-07:00I read what Phillipe Legrain is asserting, and it ...I read what Phillipe Legrain is asserting, and it ludicrous argument. Legrain is claiming that low IQ inbred, 2/3rds of which are illiterate in their own language, migrants will be able to pay for them their own costs within five years. That's not going to happen. Past experiences with middle eastern migrants in Europe show them to net net tax consumers. Legrain also conflates total GDP with GDP per capita. Only GDP per capita matters to a normal person.<br /><br />In short Legrain is selling a completely BS argument and Hornberger knows it. Now the question is why Hornberger is selling this poison.Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-37717052289170046462016-06-02T14:19:51.577-07:002016-06-02T14:19:51.577-07:00He certainly does not have the best interest of Eu...He certainly does not have the best interest of European people in mind. Do you?UnhappyConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120041008604859202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-62239829557551450872016-06-02T14:08:24.599-07:002016-06-02T14:08:24.599-07:00Alaska, I second the comment from UC. When the or...Alaska, I second the comment from UC. When the original comment was posted by Anonymous, I chose to ignore it. I am glad you and others did not, as I gained new insights from your responses.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-22054729574350912782016-06-02T14:04:59.920-07:002016-06-02T14:04:59.920-07:00"If freedom of association and self-determina..."If freedom of association and self-determination was to be permitted, you know as well as I do that many people will chose to live in ethnically homogeneous societies."<br /><br />Perfectly compatible with a private property libertarian order; not very compatible with left-libertarian thinking.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-92097584859537518432016-06-02T14:03:21.055-07:002016-06-02T14:03:21.055-07:00Jacob This is the last time I will address this: ...Jacob This is the last time I will address this: people have no "natural right to travel." <br /><br />People have the right to leave (absent voluntarily agreeing not to do so); they have no right to enter.<br />bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.com