tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post4146036581782529383..comments2024-03-28T09:59:13.754-07:00Comments on bionic mosquito: Jordan Peterson Interviews a Warmonger bionic mosquitohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-14655296991143090482022-03-07T07:58:23.568-08:002022-03-07T07:58:23.568-08:00No censoring. They don't need Peterson's ...No censoring. They don't need Peterson's audience to dominate the conversation. <br /><br />But my confusion stems more with Peterson, although the point made by cosmic dwarf above really helps me make sense of what was somewhat confusing to me.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-9963609748419867802022-03-06T07:05:36.863-08:002022-03-06T07:05:36.863-08:00Bionic, had you killed the messenger I would not h...Bionic, had you killed the messenger I would not have learned so much about evil incarnate.<br /><br />If we censor these people how can we then reject them in disgust? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-73309491410425620502022-03-05T13:52:41.004-08:002022-03-05T13:52:41.004-08:00I am already too well aware of the mindset of the ...I am already too well aware of the mindset of the ingroup. It is available on CNN and Fox every day. I do not need Peterson to expose this.<br /><br />My comment at the video:<br /><br />I find it almost impossible to believe that no one in Peterson's inner circle mentioned to him the significant amount of push back in the comments to the first video with this warmonger. The first time, I could believe Peterson gave him an audience unknowingly. The second time it is difficult to be so charitable.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-67315903174155909502022-03-05T12:09:47.432-08:002022-03-05T12:09:47.432-08:00We now have an 'Ukraine Update | Frederick Kag...We now have an 'Ukraine Update | Frederick Kagan' from March 3:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDElXTPm3VQ<br /><br />This interview confirms my impression that Jordan really do not bring any prejudice to the table, only process.<br /><br />On the other hand, unashamedly uninformed as Jordan is, he acts an excellent catalyst and allows Kagan to clearly express his mode of thinking.<br /><br />These interviews with Kagan I find immensely instructive and a general representation of the mindset of his ingroup.<br /><br />When asked about what compromise could defuse the situation Kagan replies with something to the effect of "unconditional surrender"...<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-51086215406953467632022-03-05T09:42:37.066-08:002022-03-05T09:42:37.066-08:00"...trying to find something salvageable in e..."...trying to find something salvageable in each."<br /><br />This is an excellent point. He is struggling to hold on to the established narratives of the Enlightenment, of democracy, of Western institutions, of science, of modern liberalism, of Christianity, etc.<br /><br />But he keeps butting heads with the idea that these may not be what he was taught to believe.<br /><br />It must be very difficult for him. So, yes. One should be more sympathetic toward his flip-flops.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-87804769829204237792022-03-05T09:39:13.753-08:002022-03-05T09:39:13.753-08:00Not likely. In this case, he is only two years ol...Not likely. In this case, he is only two years older than her.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-33048970633719904102022-03-05T09:36:38.693-08:002022-03-05T09:36:38.693-08:00If both Russia and the US wanted peace, the two wo...If both Russia and the US wanted peace, the two would guarantee Ukraine as a neutral state - as a buffer between two otherwise potentially belligerent powers.<br /><br />If one or the other wants war, the the one who wants war (or both) would remove it as a buffer.<br /><br />This is what Stalin and Hitler did to Poland - agreed to remove it as a buffer. In that case, they both wanted war.<br /><br />In the case of Ukraine, one or both sides want war. And the evidence weighs strongly as to which side (or both) it might be.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-78346801045313314762022-03-05T09:33:00.058-08:002022-03-05T09:33:00.058-08:00Nice observation. America has not been militarist...Nice observation. America has not been militaristic enough, apparently.<br /><br />bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-26827670356887652352022-03-04T12:32:26.299-08:002022-03-04T12:32:26.299-08:00It's almost like Peterson is going through eve...It's almost like Peterson is going through every facet of the Establishment, trying to find something salvageable in each. He hasn't reached the point of saying "screw it, I'll just assume it's all worthless". The red pill must have gotten stuck somewhere in his throat!<br /><br />I've mellowed towards his flop-flops somewhat. Even young me took a while to ditch many stupid notions, such as the US government being a force for liberty internationally. Peterson comes from a successful career and still has much to lose in terms of respectability if he starts hitting too close to the mark on certain subjects. His will be a winding road.cosmic dwarfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16562864681773374828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-82724299160739821352022-03-04T05:24:36.480-08:002022-03-04T05:24:36.480-08:00I wondered about the Kagan name. It was plain this...I wondered about the Kagan name. It was plain this guy was MIC. A disappointing choice.Martinhttp://www.mcviewpoint.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-10199876951712008612022-03-03T21:18:14.800-08:002022-03-03T21:18:14.800-08:00Is that the same Robert Kagan who is Elena Kagan&#...Is that the same Robert Kagan who is Elena Kagan's father?Darien Sumnerhttp://www.bumblingbees.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-58090595774133965472022-03-03T12:05:58.557-08:002022-03-03T12:05:58.557-08:00I found it worthwhile just to hear Kagan's exc...I found it worthwhile just to hear Kagan's excellent explanation of 'gaslighting' and it's tactical purpose. He revealed it is a tool he completely masters and not only in theory. <br /><br />Kagan used gaslighting extensively during the interview, and accused his enemy for what he himself was doing.<br /><br />So I think it was an excellent interview, with Jordan's professional experience allowing Kagan to freely articulate his projections.<br /><br />On the other hand it has been very painful to conclude that gaslighting is the essence of most Western discourse and cannot be countered by any concept of truth.<br /><br />An Empire of Lies, right?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-84909399781694288512022-03-03T08:59:02.655-08:002022-03-03T08:59:02.655-08:00If Buchanan and the Paleocons had taken the reigns...If Buchanan and the Paleocons had taken the reigns in 1992, then maybe we'd live in that world. Maybe if Ron Paul had won in 2008 or 2012, we could have repaired the relations with the East. But sadly, neither of these were meant to be. <br /><br />NATO should have been disbanded on the collapse of the Soviet Union. That would have been a real show of peace and good will - a real Cincinnatus moment. But there was too much money and power at stake, and this is a fallen world.A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-18522041929534312462022-03-03T08:51:29.136-08:002022-03-03T08:51:29.136-08:00"A man’s got to know his limitations." -..."A man’s got to know his limitations." - Dirty HarryCrush Limbrawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11511707894293049606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-39813800040514049972022-03-03T07:28:00.466-08:002022-03-03T07:28:00.466-08:00The difficult thing to me is I don't think Ukr...The difficult thing to me is I don't think Ukraine will ever be truly neutral. Either they will be aligned with Russia. Or they will be aligned with the US. It's wrong. It's sad. But I don't see a way out of the predicament.<br /><br />We know that ultimately Russia will go to nuclear war rather than let Ukraine align with the US. Putin bad, Putin bad, Putin bad. Russia, Russia, Russia.<br /><br />But from the perspective of the US, is Ukraine worth going to nuclear war over? Does it make the US more secure or more prosperous if Ukraine aligns with "us" vs "them"? No. Not significantly.<br /><br />Maybe someday if the US de-escalates and lets Eastern Europe politically align on it own and pursues only trade relationships through private action alone, at some point Russia would trust the West enough to not care what Ukraine did. We are no where near that point. We would have been much closer in 2022 if that effort would have been started in 1991.<br /><br />https://thecrosssectionrmb.blogspot.com/RMBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603112499567064214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-77286432243675956572022-03-03T06:53:14.788-08:002022-03-03T06:53:14.788-08:00I listened to the whole thing. You didn't miss...I listened to the whole thing. You didn't miss much. <br /><br />The only time Kagan recognized an error that he (or the US or NATO) had made in the past regarding foreign policy and war, it was to say that he incorrectly surmised that Russia would not invade Ukraine. So, he's only wrong when he's a dove apparently. <br /><br />2 steps back indeed. A Texas Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980539931923054404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-68990361607673114552022-03-03T06:32:28.915-08:002022-03-03T06:32:28.915-08:00That and $4 will get you a cup of coffee.That and $4 will get you a cup of coffee.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-22388762731120555712022-03-03T04:34:09.947-08:002022-03-03T04:34:09.947-08:00Its simple than that. Have ucranians the rigth to ...Its simple than that. Have ucranians the rigth to leave free in liberty and democracy ? Yes they have , like americans and europeans. Putin thinks they don t have.The rest is just talk talk talk.Jorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011718328149793373noreply@blogger.com