tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post3139157455063480140..comments2024-03-28T06:00:18.802-07:00Comments on bionic mosquito: Democracy: The god That Demands Revenge bionic mosquitohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-88483547073318764232016-05-25T09:00:47.024-07:002016-05-25T09:00:47.024-07:00Thank you for your timely reply BM, I'm sorry ...Thank you for your timely reply BM, I'm sorry that I have taken so long to reply in turn, I've been very busy catching up and reading some of your more current posts. <br />I'm sorry I put words in your mouth:<br />JFC Fuller said<br />"The influence of the spirit of nationality,that is, of democracy, on wars was profound... [it] emotionalized war and consequently brutalized it... National armies fight nations, royal armies their like, the 1st obeys a mob-always demented, the 2nd a king, generally sane."<br />I mistook this along with your posts on kings of old to mean that you were saying authoritarian govts do not need propaganda.<br />After I read it again, your post answered my question...<br />"From “Monarchy and War,” by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn – taken from the volume edited by Hoppe, “The Myth of National Defense”: in a democracy, as recruits are taken from a general population – a population that believes it has some say in its political dealings."<br />Authoritarians do not control a populace that thinks it has a say in the state, therefore they need not trick anyone, it is plain for all to see who holds the power in an authoritarian state.<br />I would argue however, that stalin did not need to be persuaded to "get millions to kill millions"-the millions he had murdered up to that point were persuasion enough to get millions to kill millions. In any case though, I think that Stalin found that propaganda raised morale superficially and made it more efficient for said millions to die for a few.<br />Thank you again for your attention sir, I look forward to reading more from you.Josh1476https://www.blogger.com/profile/07881701110722592922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-14283645329342730192016-05-12T04:55:00.186-07:002016-05-12T04:55:00.186-07:00I am not sure I wrote that kings did not need the ...I am not sure I wrote that kings did not need the backing of their constituencies; perhaps you can quote where this is so, and I will address it.<br /><br />People submit to the state for the purpose of protection - of property and self. The state uses propaganda to convince the people they are in constant danger, thereby increasing the demand for protection services. They use propaganda to make clear how much better life is solely because of the goodness of the state. How do you convince people that giving up 30% - 70% of their income is a good deal, without just taking the shortcut and turning them into slaves?<br /><br />Stalin? I can think of reasons why - both for internal and external consumption. How to convince millions that killing other millions was good? That takes a lot of propaganda, it seems to me.<br /><br />I do not claim to understand all of this perfectly; yet we see - every state, no matter how relatively free or totalitarian engages in propaganda. They have clearly found it necessary, whatever their reasons.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-72870599183752310762016-05-11T19:15:27.706-07:002016-05-11T19:15:27.706-07:00BM let me start by saying I'm new and very luc...BM let me start by saying I'm new and very lucky to have found your blog. <br />I would like to know why, in your opinion Germany and russia(non-democratic nations)had such strong propaganda machines, when they do not need their constituents backing in the same way elected officials do. Basically I'm asking, if democracies need propaganda for their citizens backing in a way that "kings" and others don't, why did these two totalitarian regimes seem to need it so much?Josh1476https://www.blogger.com/profile/07881701110722592922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-648884752216444797.post-15857337876672362732016-05-11T15:28:11.550-07:002016-05-11T15:28:11.550-07:00BM, first of like to say I'm new and very bles...BM, first of like to say I'm new and very blessed to have found your blog. I especially benefit from reading your post-discussions.<br />I'm curious what you think about the more authoritarian leaders' needs(Germany and Russia)for propaganda were, concerning what you said about democracies needing the backing of their constituents and kings of old not. It's seems that Stalin at the very least did not need such strong organs of propaganda; at least not for getting his people behind him, so what did he need them for, as he most obviously seemed to.<br />JoshJosh1476https://www.blogger.com/profile/07881701110722592922noreply@blogger.com